whenever someone writes the words “inherently LGBT”, somewhere, a rainbow dies
I’m sorry but I disagree. I’m genderqueer and polysexual, well into the lgbtq fam. What is considered lgbtq is often an agreed upon social construct yes, many of the behaviors we expect from lgbtq people are rooted in stereotypes. But some people are inherently lgbtq because that’s how they were born, personally I figured it out later, but some people just know. There are also groups that are inherently lgbtq because they were built by and for the community. I can see how that phrase opens the door for The Straights to invalidate us, but it also gives us the opportunity to say “this is OURS you are not gonna come into our club and take it away or make it straight cause it’s inherently FOR lgbtq people”. Just my two cents. Hope it was coherent enough 😅
I think I see what you’re saying but I still stand by my OP. I’m cis panromantic and demisexual (just so ppl know) and the reality is that the spectra of genders and orientations existed long before the LGBT+ ever came to be (and would still technically exist without it). IOW, our Identities’ existence DO NOT rely on the existence of the LGBT+. Our safety and a ton of other things related to our IDs certainly can rely on it (which is why it was CREATED in the first place), but the existence of our IDs is not dependant on the LGBT+. Does that make sense?
How we talk about our IDs and the words we use to label them may have changed over time, but there’s no reason to believe these things haven’t always been here. The LGBT+ is literally only necessary because society is bigoted as hell and takes it out a lot on people specifically for their gender, sexual, &/or romantic orientations. So the LGBT+ is about addressing our marginalization and abuse against that bigotry and if it didn’t exist, we wouldn’t even need the LGBT+. Wouldn’t that be kinda awesome???
Moreover, what is and is not included in the LGBT+ acronym is not even REMOTELY static. It changes depending on time, place, people, etc. For example, TERFs/nbphobes will never include the T or the N, and bi/panphobes will never include the B or the P (& no exclusionist tends to include the + bc that leaves things open and gorsh, u sure wouldn’t want that! /s). So we cannot even agree on what to include at one single point in time so how on EARTH could there ever be anything “inherent” about it?!
This is literally all about hatekeeping who can and cannot be included and I want you all to watch closely because I don’t think I’ve seen a single person saying “inherently LGBT” that ever included the +. At MOST you’ll see them add the “PN”. That’s significant.
tl;dr, saying there is such a thing as “inherently LGBT” is a-historic and can be a gatekeeping tactic. It’s also essentializing and naturalizing the very NEED for an LGBT+ and, as a result, confirms for the Straights that we are in fact the “abnormal” ones and so we really DO deserve the abuse they inflict upon us (as they’ve always been trained to believe). Especially when they see us picking-on, bullying, excluding, and/or abusing each other, like MY. GOD. STOP.
#BoostAceVoices
Oh oh ooooh I see what you’re saying. Yeah lgbtq is kind of a club. We existed as individuals and realized we shared a likeness and formed a group based on that shared trait. Your identity and expression would be valid if the lgbtq group dissipated because well it’s just a name and associative clique.
I think some people rightly take offense to the association of the word “club” with the LGBT+/q***r communities, but your point is otherwise well made & taken.
I can see that. It implies the age old stereotype of sexuality and gender are choices and can be unchosen. Shoulda been better with my word choice
No worries friend, it’s a learning opportunity and that’s a good thing :)