(Posts tagged October 23rd 2017)

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whenever someone writes the words “inherently LGBT”, somewhere, a rainbow dies

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I’m sorry but I disagree. I’m genderqueer and polysexual, well into the lgbtq fam. What is considered lgbtq is often an agreed upon social construct yes, many of the behaviors we expect from lgbtq people are rooted in stereotypes. But some people are inherently lgbtq because that’s how they were born, personally I figured it out later, but some people just know. There are also groups that are inherently lgbtq because they were built by and for the community. I can see how that phrase opens the door for The Straights to invalidate us, but it also gives us the opportunity to say “this is OURS you are not gonna come into our club and take it away or make it straight cause it’s inherently FOR lgbtq people”. Just my two cents. Hope it was coherent enough 😅

feministingforchange

I think I see what you’re saying but I still stand by my OP. I’m cis panromantic and demisexual (just so ppl know) and the reality is that the spectra of genders and orientations existed long before the LGBT+ ever came to be (and would still technically exist without it). IOW, our Identities’ existence DO NOT rely on the existence of the LGBT+. Our safety and a ton of other things related to our IDs certainly can rely on it (which is why it was CREATED in the first place), but the existence of our IDs is not dependant on the LGBT+. Does that make sense?

How we talk about our IDs and the words we use to label them may have changed over time, but there’s no reason to believe these things haven’t always been here. The LGBT+ is literally only necessary because society is bigoted as hell and takes it out a lot on people specifically for their gender, sexual, &/or romantic orientations. So the LGBT+ is about addressing our marginalization and abuse against that bigotry and if it didn’t exist, we wouldn’t even need the LGBT+. Wouldn’t that be kinda awesome???

Moreover, what is and is not included in the LGBT+ acronym is not even REMOTELY static. It changes depending on time, place, people, etc. For example, TERFs/nbphobes will never include the T or the N, and bi/panphobes will never include the B or the P (& no exclusionist tends to include the + bc that leaves things open and gorsh, u sure wouldn’t want that! /s). So we cannot even agree on what to include at one single point in time so how on EARTH could there ever be anything “inherent” about it?!

This is literally all about hatekeeping who can and cannot be included and I want you all to watch closely because I don’t think I’ve seen a single person saying “inherently LGBT” that ever included the +. At MOST you’ll see them add the “PN”. That’s significant.

tl;dr, saying there is such a thing as “inherently LGBT” is a-historic and can be a gatekeeping tactic. It’s also essentializing and naturalizing the very NEED for an LGBT+ and, as a result, confirms for the Straights that we are in fact the “abnormal” ones and so we really DO deserve the abuse they inflict upon us (as they’ve always been trained to believe). Especially when they see us picking-on, bullying, excluding, and/or abusing each other, like MY. GOD. STOP.

#BoostAceVoices

goodness-gracious-great-balls-of

Oh oh ooooh I see what you’re saying. Yeah lgbtq is kind of a club. We existed as individuals and realized we shared a likeness and formed a group based on that shared trait. Your identity and expression would be valid if the lgbtq group dissipated because well it’s just a name and associative clique.

feministingforchange

I think some people rightly take offense to the association of the word “club” with the LGBT+/q***r communities, but your point is otherwise well made & taken. 

goodness-gracious-great-balls-of

I can see that. It implies the age old stereotype of sexuality and gender are choices and can be unchosen. Shoulda been better with my word choice

feministingforchange

No worries friend, it’s a learning opportunity and that’s a good thing :)

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Honestly, i dunno where i’d be without those cute pet pics in the “”””ace discourse”””” tag.

 Sending a massive TY to the blogs responsible @catsnotdiscourse @hedgehognotdiscourse @butterflies-not-discourse @ewoksnotdiscourse etc <3

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“[IMAGE: Youth leaders Destry and Emma representing trans and Two Spirit Indigenous youth on panel today alongside @NAYCHA_CAAN member @JackSaddleback, featuring Two Spirit aunties.]
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[IMAGE: Youth leaders Destry and Emma representing trans and Two Spirit Indigenous youth on panel today alongside @NAYCHA_CAAN member @JackSaddleback, featuring Two Spirit aunties.]

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so important <3

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To other autistic people, do you ever get told to stop yelling when in actuality, you didn’t even realise you were shouting?

forevrdreamingofbetterthings

yes, fairly often actually. even my mom agreed i need to work on it *cries*. and despite my own efforts, it’s gotten to the point where i’ve asked ppl to just let me know if i’m shouting bc sometimes i just can’t tell it’s happening. i told them though that it tends to happen when i’m happy and/or excited, usually when talking about one of my passions (esp. criminology & social justice related). but since my voice is so powerful and my face is highly expressive (and probably sometimes conveys the wrong feelings too?) ppl have also sometimes genuinely thought i was mad when i shouted, when it’s actually kinda hard to piss me off lol. in fact most of these times i was just happy/excited, as i said. so i was sending the exact opposite signals from how I was feeling. and this is… common for me and i don’t remember a time it didn’t happen

until recently (like, a few yrs ago?) ppl thought i was mad at them and it’s lead to many unnecessary (verbal) fights. i mean, knowing and accepting that you do it is probably half the battle. although that may just be my optimism & fibro fog shining through lol.

so yeah, i know exactly what you mean :/

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feministingforchange

I refuse to let my period be the “dirty little secret” that society seems to demand of me. While it’s no picnic, it’s a normal and necessary part of the human life cycle and without it, we’re toast folks!!! No one’s asking you to love it (who does?!), just stop treating people who menstruate like they are gross, bad, and dirty — pls & ty!!!

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feministingforchange

whenever someone writes the words “inherently LGBT”, somewhere, a rainbow dies

goodness-gracious-great-balls-of

I’m sorry but I disagree. I’m genderqueer and polysexual, well into the lgbtq fam. What is considered lgbtq is often an agreed upon social construct yes, many of the behaviors we expect from lgbtq people are rooted in stereotypes. But some people are inherently lgbtq because that’s how they were born, personally I figured it out later, but some people just know. There are also groups that are inherently lgbtq because they were built by and for the community. I can see how that phrase opens the door for The Straights to invalidate us, but it also gives us the opportunity to say “this is OURS you are not gonna come into our club and take it away or make it straight cause it’s inherently FOR lgbtq people”. Just my two cents. Hope it was coherent enough 😅

feministingforchange

I think I see what you’re saying but I still stand by my OP. I’m cis panromantic and demisexual (just so ppl know) and the reality is that the spectra of genders and orientations existed long before the LGBT+ ever came to be (and would still technically exist without it). IOW, our Identities’ existence DO NOT rely on the existence of the LGBT+. Our safety and a ton of other things related to our IDs certainly can rely on it (which is why it was CREATED in the first place), but the existence of our IDs is not dependant on the LGBT+. Does that make sense?

How we talk about our IDs and the words we use to label them may have changed over time, but there’s no reason to believe these things haven’t always been here. The LGBT+ is literally only necessary because society is bigoted as hell and takes it out a lot on people specifically for their gender, sexual, &/or romantic orientations. So the LGBT+ is about addressing our marginalization and abuse against that bigotry and if it didn’t exist, we wouldn’t even need the LGBT+. Wouldn’t that be kinda awesome???

Moreover, what is and is not included in the LGBT+ acronym is not even REMOTELY static. It changes depending on time, place, people, etc. For example, TERFs/nbphobes will never include the T or the N, and bi/panphobes will never include the B or the P (& no exclusionist tends to include the + bc that leaves things open and gorsh, u sure wouldn’t want that! /s). So we cannot even agree on what to include at one single point in time so how on EARTH could there ever be anything “inherent” about it?!

This is literally all about hatekeeping who can and cannot be included and I want you all to watch closely because I don’t think I’ve seen a single person saying “inherently LGBT” that ever included the +. At MOST you’ll see them add the “PN”. That’s significant.

tl;dr, saying there is such a thing as “inherently LGBT” is a-historic and can be a gatekeeping tactic. It’s also essentializing and naturalizing the very NEED for an LGBT+ and, as a result, confirms for the Straights that we are in fact the “abnormal” ones and so we really DO deserve the abuse they inflict upon us (as they’ve always been trained to believe). Especially when they see us picking-on, bullying, excluding, and/or abusing each other, like MY. GOD. STOP.

#BoostAceVoices

goodness-gracious-great-balls-of

Oh oh ooooh I see what you’re saying. Yeah lgbtq is kind of a club. We existed as individuals and realized we shared a likeness and formed a group based on that shared trait. Your identity and expression would be valid if the lgbtq group dissipated because well it’s just a name and associative clique.

feministingforchange

I think some people rightly take offense to the association of the word “club” with the LGBT+/q***r communities, but your point is otherwise well made & taken. 

goodness-gracious-great-balls-of

I can see that. It implies the age old stereotype of sexuality and gender are choices and can be unchosen. Shoulda been better with my word choice

feministingforchange

No worries friend, it’s a learning opportunity and that’s a good thing :)

reblog 23rd October 2017 October 23rd 2017 long post inherently lgbt actually panromantic demisexual ace discourse exclusionary tactics q word tw hatekeeping italics abuse tw marginalization tw bigotry tw ask to tag

Honestly, i dunno where i’d be without those cute pet pics in the “”””ace discourse”””” tag.

 Sending a massive TY to the blogs responsible @catsnotdiscourse @hedgehognotdiscourse @butterflies-not-discourse @ewoksnotdiscourse etc <3

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